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Why is there a need for master plan for the Setauket Harbor Pond Park?

  • The Town of Brookhaven owns the 2.82 parcel currently leased by the East Setauket Automotive.  The lease will not renewed and the parcel will be available to be incorporated into the park.  This more than doubles the size of the contiguous heart of the park.

  • The Town of Brookhaven recently acquired the Historic Roe Tavern and plans on relocating the building to the park, not far from it's original location.

  • The combination of these two important events allow the community to reimagine the what the park could be creating a sense of place.

GIS Aerial View of the Site: 

(link to Brookhaven GIS website)

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Parcel Area Map

 

This park can be thought of as two separate areas, west and east, separated by a defining Pond and connected with a bridge. 

 

The east side is small with constrained parcels.  The majority of the area is located on the west side of the Pond and is the conceptual epicenter.   

  • To understand the historic role of the public spaces, see the article by JB Jackson, "The American Public Space," The Public Interest, 74, (Winter 1984) pp. 52-65 Copyright © 1984 by National Affairs Inc.

  • For a classic understanding of design approaches to the natural environment see text by Ian McHarg, Design With Nature, Garden City, N.Y. 1969, Published for the American Museum of Natural History [by] the Natural History Press, specifically the chapter "On Values," pp. 67-77.

Contextual Analysis:

The park is made up of fragmented parcels

It sits on sensitive tidal wetlands

It is an overgrown site that prevents views of the harbor beyond

The site is highly constrained due to the following:

  • odd shape of the parcels and existing uses

  • the natural wetlands and tidal pond dividing the park in two

  • it’s on the edge of a high traffic Main Street and State Route

  • the built environment extends into the park (including a popular restaurant)

  • it has a sacred war memorial

  • the park is defined architecturally by a stylistic mix of commercial “Western False Front” and historic residential architecture 

  • the Park is located in one of the Town's 16 Historic Districts (See Town of Brookhaven HDAC).

Bookended by two important historic homes

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The key question is:

What should the Setauket Harbor Pond Park become?

  • an Idyllic Green Space (a visual work of art to be viewed only);

  • a Historic New England Green (a romantic allegory celebrating a past time and place);

  • an Informal Public Green Space where people could stay and relax (includes limited public accommodations);

  • a Program Park (with limited cultural or historical activities);

  • a mix of some aspects.  

 

What design questions should we ask:

  • Should the park foster a sense of place and community identity?

  • Should a center be defined to help conceptually organize this fragmented and constrained park?

  • Should this park include passive activities that attract a mix of ages and interests vs. one-dimensional park with limited appeal?

  • Is this a park that one spends time in (as opposed to a place where one passes through)?  If so, should it have shelter?

  • How do we define the sensitive edge between the water, wetlands and the land?

  • Should parking be provided for the community to visit and how do we hide it to visually enhance green space?

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Existing Three Village Parks and Types:

  • The Stony Brook Village Green and Hercules Pavilion is a successful romantic New England Village Green that abuts a protected harbor.  The design solution deconstructed an entire village to create an architype of one person’s individual vision based on contemporary precedents of the times like Colonial Williamsburg, Virginia to create an historic Disneyland, as if the Village Green was always there.  Ward Melville was able to do this because he was unconstrained in land purchases, budget, regulatory review and vision during the depression.​

  • Other Public, Park and Natural Space Typologies in Three Village.​​

 

Additional Factors:

  • future park expansion and connection to Town Beach on Shore Road

  • public funding mechanisms for initial development (municipal bonds or park district taxing authority, etc.)

  • life cycle costs, maintenance and staffing

  • SWPPP, environmental impact and regulatory restrictions

Architectural Historical Background and analysis:

  • Old Ruhland's Garage (currently the East Setauket Automotive Building). This building is part of a historic stylistic ensemble of late 19th and early 20th century buildings in the Setauket downtown streetscape.  It is strongly suggested that some aspect of Historic Preservation be made and memory of the building's façade be retained to create the spatial definition of streetscape.  The façade can also act as formal public entrance and starting point of the park.  The Park is located in a Town Historic District (See Brookhaven HDAC) that requires architectural review and comment. 

  • Historic Roe Tavern (1703), currently located on Millie Lane, East Setauket, NY.  This building important because the Culper Spy Ring was run out of the tavern during the Revolutionary War. General George Washington slept at the Roe Tavern on April 22, 1790, to thank the spy ring for their efforts.​​​

Relocated Historic Roe Tavern to Main Street

 Estimated budget costs for moving and historic restoration work is approx.: $800,000+ (includes site work and foundation) 

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Two Design approaches:

Constrained Historical vs. Unconstrained Romantic

 

This presentation will propose two different design approaches:

1. Constrained Historical: a design that is highly constrained by the context and seeks to preserve many historical aspects and authentic natural features of the site.  

2. Unconstrained Romantic: a design that is unconstrained from the existing context and seeks to create a series of spatial experiences that focus on an "ideal" natural environment.  This is the Romantic New England Village Green in the "English Landscape Garden" style reminiscent of the Stony Brook Village Green and Frank Melville Park. 

See Genealogy of Landscape Styles Descendant Chart. 

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Ensemble of Existing Principle buildings on Main Street with proposed Historic Roe Tavern

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